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How to get Fundamentals in Backtesting outside of CourseGrainSelector and FineGrainSelector in C#

I would like to use fundamentals data for purposes other than selecting stocks (ie as inputs in ML).  I see in the docs how to select stocks based on fundamentals, but not how to access fundamental values.  In my testing, Securities["SPY"].Fundamentals are always null.

For example, inside a schedule function:

Securities["SPY"].Fundamentals.ValuationRatios.PERatio

 ...throws a nullreferenceexeption.  Is there some other step I need to take to populate Fundamentals in this scenario?

 

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Hi Daniel,
The Fundamentals member in the Security object is only set in a Universe Selection algorithm.
In this case, do you have

AddUniverse(CourseGrainSelector, FineGrainSelector)

in Initialize?

Could please attach an algorithm that reproduced the issue?
Note: comment out this statement Securities["SPY"].Fundamentals.ValuationRatios.PERatio

I am assuming that the Security.Fundamentals object is null for every security, because SPY, being an ETF, does not have Fine Fundamental data.

 

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Thanks for the reply.  I understand I can access fundamentals inside of a Course or Fine selector, but I am wanting to access them in a different context- inside a Schedule.On or OnData- so that I can use the latest fundamental data as-of a given day in the algorithm.  Below is a sample. I've commented out "         //(double)spy.Fundamentals.ValuationRatios.PERatio" because it throws a nullreferenceexception.  In this case, I'd like to get the latest PE Ratio of SPY on each date so that I can use it as a signal.   I understand some fundamentals may not apply to ETFs, but they do have P/E Ratio, right?
    

 
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Hi Daniel,
We need to include a AddUniverse call to pull the Fundamental data.
In the following example, I am only getting data from MSFT (PERatio was always zero for SPY).

// Define the symbol
private Symbol _msft = QuantConnect.Symbol.Create("MSFT", SecurityType.Equity, Market.USA);

// In Initialize
AddUniverse(coarse => new [] { _msft }, fine => new [] { _msft });

// In OnData
Security msft;
if (Securities.TryGetValue(_msft, out msft))
{
var f = msft.Fundamentals;
if (f != null && f.ValuationRatios.PERatio > 0)
Log($"{Time} :: {f.ValuationRatios.PERatio}");
}

The algorithm you shared is trying to get Fundamentals in Initialize. This procedure will not work since we need at least one data iteration to set up that object.

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